Comments on: GWOC! http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/ Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:56:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-430 Anonymous Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:09:40 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-430 I hate myself for saying this, but the D&D joke made me laugh out loud.<br/><br/>Though isn't that a blessed bag of holding? Or am I stuck in nethack mode?<br/><br/>(HOLY CRAP THERE'S A PARALLEL UNIVERSE IN THERE) <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://waxbanks.typepad.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="nope at nope dot com">Wax</a> I hate myself for saying this, but the D&D joke made me laugh out loud.

Though isn’t that a blessed bag of holding? Or am I stuck in nethack mode?

(HOLY CRAP THERE’S A PARALLEL UNIVERSE IN THERE) 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-429 Anonymous Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:41:04 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-429 I wish people would stop mentioning Michelle Malking. I'm hoping that if we ignore her, she'll go away.<br/><br/>btw, kudos for escaping your hindutva family politics. i admire people who can fully extricate themselves from anything like that. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://darkdaysahead.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sauravsarkar2000 at gmail dot com">Saurav</a> I wish people would stop mentioning Michelle Malking. I’m hoping that if we ignore her, she’ll go away.

btw, kudos for escaping your hindutva family politics. i admire people who can fully extricate themselves from anything like that. 

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]]> By: aram harrow http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-428 aram harrow Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:04:43 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-428 I can't help but mention this: (1+5)/2 = 3.<br/><br/>Also, my favorite review is titled "The plural of 'anecdote' is not 'evidence,' Mr Gibson..."<br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a>aram I can’t help but mention this: (1+5)/2 = 3.

Also, my favorite review is titled “The plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘evidence,’ Mr Gibson…”

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-427 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:15:35 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-427 Comrades! Join the <a HREF="http://www.xmasresistance.org/" REL="nofollow">Xmas Resistance</a>  and help us with our War On {Christ|X}mas. Remember, you're either for us or agin us! <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://www.xmasresistance.org/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="satanta at xmasresistance dot org">Elf Qaeda</a> Comrades! Join the Xmas Resistance  and help us with our War On {Christ|X}mas. Remember, you’re either for us or agin us! 

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]]> By: Saheli http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-426 Saheli Sat, 10 Dec 2005 09:31:05 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-426 <a HREF="http://www.persmin.nic.in/cirular_reports/jca_circular/jcm3.html#6" REL="nofollow">This looks like a fairly official list</a> , it's from the ministry of personnel.<br/><br/>It is actually totally understandable that there are more Muslim holidays than Hindu holidays. There aren't all that many Muslim holidays so you can get all the major ones for cheap, so to speak. Once you start putting in more Hindu holidays than Diwali and Dussehra, you're going to get screwed. I mean, for me Janmastami is the biggest holiday of the year. But if they give me Janmastami, a Ram-bhakta is going to want Ram-Navami (which I'll happily take), and a Shiva-bhakta is going to want Shiva-ratri and Nava-ratri, and a Ganesh-bhakta is going to want Ganesh Chaturthi, and a Shakta is going to want Kali Puja and Durga Puja. The students will want Saraswati Puja and the merchants will want Laksmi Puja. Now I can argue till I'm horse they all should be content with Janmastami, and I'll also happily observe them all, but neither would work. That's 10 days off already. Meanwhile, the PRC over the hill doesn't have to deal with any of this crap. So, I think the state people get to pick three of the Hindu list, and there are other regional allowances (that would hopefully take care of, say, Yom Kippur in Cochin, or a Zorastrian holiday in Mumbai) and then they deal. So what's the score:<br/>1 Sikh<br/>1 Buddhist<br/>1 Jain<br/>2 Christian<br/>4 Muslim<br/>5 Hindu<br/><br/>And sadly, nothing for the Jews, Parsis, or Bahai. (Well, maybe the Bahai take the Muslim holidays? I don't know.) <br/><br/>Okay, so I guess this now sounds like an argument for leaving well enough alone re:American Christmas, but you gotta give people credit for trying. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://ssrdatta.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sahelidatta at hotmail dot com">Saheli</a> This looks like a fairly official list , it’s from the ministry of personnel.

It is actually totally understandable that there are more Muslim holidays than Hindu holidays. There aren’t all that many Muslim holidays so you can get all the major ones for cheap, so to speak. Once you start putting in more Hindu holidays than Diwali and Dussehra, you’re going to get screwed. I mean, for me Janmastami is the biggest holiday of the year. But if they give me Janmastami, a Ram-bhakta is going to want Ram-Navami (which I’ll happily take), and a Shiva-bhakta is going to want Shiva-ratri and Nava-ratri, and a Ganesh-bhakta is going to want Ganesh Chaturthi, and a Shakta is going to want Kali Puja and Durga Puja. The students will want Saraswati Puja and the merchants will want Laksmi Puja. Now I can argue till I’m horse they all should be content with Janmastami, and I’ll also happily observe them all, but neither would work. That’s 10 days off already. Meanwhile, the PRC over the hill doesn’t have to deal with any of this crap. So, I think the state people get to pick three of the Hindu list, and there are other regional allowances (that would hopefully take care of, say, Yom Kippur in Cochin, or a Zorastrian holiday in Mumbai) and then they deal. So what’s the score:
1 Sikh
1 Buddhist
1 Jain
2 Christian
4 Muslim
5 Hindu

And sadly, nothing for the Jews, Parsis, or Bahai. (Well, maybe the Bahai take the Muslim holidays? I don’t know.)

Okay, so I guess this now sounds like an argument for leaving well enough alone re:American Christmas, but you gotta give people credit for trying. 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-425 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:55:00 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-425 My bad, I apologize. As I've blogged recently, I'm having surfing issues and haven't yet implemented all the solutions my readers have kindly given me. I had multiple links open for that cite and got confused about checking them up. It's tricky b/c there are so many stupid "travel sites" that list every freakin' minor village festival (which is you know, basically every freakin' day) as a holiday/potential tourist trap. I'll try to find a better cite tomorrow. BUT I will say that I've personally experienced both Christmas and Muhurram as state holidays, at least in Kolkata, so that's two more religions than you get here--plus the Guru Nanak Bday closing of the consulate.  <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://ssrdatta.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sahelidatta at hotmail dot com">Saheli</a> My bad, I apologize. As I’ve blogged recently, I’m having surfing issues and haven’t yet implemented all the solutions my readers have kindly given me. I had multiple links open for that cite and got confused about checking them up. It’s tricky b/c there are so many stupid “travel sites” that list every freakin’ minor village festival (which is you know, basically every freakin’ day) as a holiday/potential tourist trap. I’ll try to find a better cite tomorrow. BUT I will say that I’ve personally experienced both Christmas and Muhurram as state holidays, at least in Kolkata, so that’s two more religions than you get here–plus the Guru Nanak Bday closing of the consulate.  

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-424 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:50:34 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-424 I'm not sure whether to believe the Indian holiday chart linked above, given that the same website shows US holidays but <a HREF="http://www.globalsources.com/TNTLIST/DIRECTORIES/TRAVEL/HOLIDAYS/US.HTM" REL="nofollow">leaves out Christmas</a> . It must be in league with the Daily Show.<br/><br/>Does India really take more days off for Muslim holidays than for Hindu? I'd love to see Yom Kippur and Chinese New Years as national holidays here. More holidays, please. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="rhinocrisy.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="">hedgehog</a> I’m not sure whether to believe the Indian holiday chart linked above, given that the same website shows US holidays but leaves out Christmas . It must be in league with the Daily Show.

Does India really take more days off for Muslim holidays than for Hindu? I’d love to see Yom Kippur and Chinese New Years as national holidays here. More holidays, please. 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-423 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 08:39:28 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-423 Hmm? Please explain. It's been several years since I read it, and many other books have flown under the bridge, to mix metaphors badly, so I'm not sure what you mean. What do you see as Jaffrelot's ideaology, and whom do you see as his opponents? I'm scanning the Amazon page, and it seems like his opponents, so to speak, would be the very Hindu nationalists you were just now labeling as fascistic. That seems like dark shading, right there. ;-) No, seriously, I'd be really interested in why you find him unreadable. Enough to even consisder digging my copy out of a box (!!!*) From what I remember, his narrative made perfect sense to me, given my experiences--for one thing, it explained the grave discrepancy between Hinduism as I've been taught to practice it, and Hinduism as being spewed by nationalists then in the news. Perhaps I'm being presumptious, but it's clear from your blog that you don't suffer from blind allegience to faith (and I hope it's also clear from mine that I don't either, though in a different manner), so your critique of Jaffrelot seems particularly valuable to me right now.<br/><br/>Eeeenteresting. Vewwy Vewwy Eeeenteresting. :-)<br/><br/>(* I just paid you the bigggest compliment I've paid anyone on the blogosphere in weeks. You have no idea. None. Just thinking about locating that box makes me whimper with pain. Oy.) <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://ssrdatta.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sahelidatta at hotmail dot com">Saheli</a> Hmm? Please explain. It’s been several years since I read it, and many other books have flown under the bridge, to mix metaphors badly, so I’m not sure what you mean. What do you see as Jaffrelot’s ideaology, and whom do you see as his opponents? I’m scanning the Amazon page, and it seems like his opponents, so to speak, would be the very Hindu nationalists you were just now labeling as fascistic. That seems like dark shading, right there. ;-) No, seriously, I’d be really interested in why you find him unreadable. Enough to even consisder digging my copy out of a box (!!!*) From what I remember, his narrative made perfect sense to me, given my experiences–for one thing, it explained the grave discrepancy between Hinduism as I’ve been taught to practice it, and Hinduism as being spewed by nationalists then in the news. Perhaps I’m being presumptious, but it’s clear from your blog that you don’t suffer from blind allegience to faith (and I hope it’s also clear from mine that I don’t either, though in a different manner), so your critique of Jaffrelot seems particularly valuable to me right now.

Eeeenteresting. Vewwy Vewwy Eeeenteresting. :-)

(* I just paid you the bigggest compliment I’ve paid anyone on the blogosphere in weeks. You have no idea. None. Just thinking about locating that box makes me whimper with pain. Oy.) 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-422 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 06:38:25 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-422 Urgh.. I can't read that. Jaffrelot's ideological window is too narrow. He could never give a fair treatment to his ideological opponents. His vision is already colored to see them darkly. <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://rhinocrisy.blogspot.com/" REL="nofollow" TITLE="rednblack at alum dot mit dot edu">saurabh</a> Urgh.. I can’t read that. Jaffrelot’s ideological window is too narrow. He could never give a fair treatment to his ideological opponents. His vision is already colored to see them darkly. 

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]]> By: Anonymous http://rhinocrisy.org/2005/12/gwoc/#comment-421 Anonymous Sat, 10 Dec 2005 05:58:23 +0000 http://rhinocrisy.org/?p=521#comment-421 Um, that was me, Saheli. Dunno what happened. Sorry 'bout that.  <br/><br/><a></a><a></a>Posted by<a><b> </b></a><a HREF="http://ssrdatta.blogspot.com" REL="nofollow" TITLE="sahelidatta at hotmail dot com">Saheli</a> Um, that was me, Saheli. Dunno what happened. Sorry ’bout that.  

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